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  JW's and home schooling?

  by semelcred in

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  i don't wish to offend any that are teaching their kids at home, but today i was again confronted by a situation where a jw family were home schooling.

  the kids had little structure to their routine and without putting the mum down, she was no teacher in an academic sense.. the subject is close to my heart because my parents who are witnesses, took my younger brothers out of school and home tutored them.

  the were subjected to below standard education and limited in social skills, particularly as my parents are crap at these skills themselves.. i have grown to hate home schooling except in the situation of medical or logistical situations.. what are your comments good or bad and do you think the option to home school is abused by the witness community?.

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  kitten whiskers

  In my teen years, we switched congregations and I met a couple who pioneered and "home schooled" their kids.

  Bah. All they really did was use them as pioneer partners! These kids had no education what so ever! They should have been in high school with me and the other kids at the Kingdom Hall. (It was a baby boom...there were lots of us in high school at the same time!)

  Giving a talk and studying for meeting were used as classroom work! It was laughable.

  It was really very terrible.I remember thinking how much they were missing an education.

  I've only known one successful story of home schooling and it wasn't JW! She started with their eldest daughter due to medical problems and continued with the next two. They did wonderful and are a sweet, close family. Each girl is going or has been to college (a chuch affilitated college) and are turning into the most beautiful young women you have ever seen! Beautiful personalities and skills. A rare jewel in the home schooled department!
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  I didn't ask

  by John Doe in

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  for your opinion..

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  kitten whiskers

  Aren't you glad we offer freely...saving you the embarassment of asking?
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  A hopeful but weird and funny dream I woke up from about my old Jehovah's Witness friends and family

  by Butterflyleia85 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a weird dream last night, a dream i'd love to come true in a sense.

  i can't remember all but the bits and peices had my mom, my old best friend lacey and another friend that wasn't from my hall but a good friend crystal, it did have my grandma and sister but they weren't in it as long.

  my mom and i were in the car together she said she's been talking to crystal and she too had seen some sorta evidance that jw's were wrong, wrong and actually became worse about menipulating the people.. (in reality crystal has always been a bet rebelous and i didn't understand how she could do things she did and be a jw but i was thankful for her kindness when i got reinstated, she was the only one that actually wanted to hang out with me.).

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  Wow! What an interesting and literal rendition of "food at the proper time"! I bet if you were able to stay in it, she would have revealed they could only eat it at "proper times" too!

  They would probably have to eat at the same time Bethal eats!

  That must have been quite the morning as you pondered this dream! Wow! Thanks for sharing!
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  ***URGENT Advice Needed***

  by babygirl30 in

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  2. friends

  hey everyone!.

  i will be going into the hospital for surgery on tues...my first one ever!

  the surgeon has gone over the procedure and informed me that it's 'bloody' and so she gave me all my options.

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  kitten whiskers

  Congratulations on finding a doctor you trust and who respects you enough to tell you what to expect!

  I am so glad you are able to take care of whatever problem it is that ails you! I am also glad you have a network of people to help you physically and emotionally that are not in a JW mindset and will support you in taking care of your health and your life!

  One of the things my husband does, now that we have left, is give blood when he can. (They also use him to get something extra, I can't remember what it is, but it is something that is a little harder to give/get). He is proud that he is helping someone. Remember that. People have given blood for it to be there for all of us! Anyone of us at anytime might face a critical moment where that gift can save us!

  Those who have given blood do it out of love! There is so much they go through to make it available! It's done willingly and in hopes of helping you! They eat right so they can give that day. They make an appointment to do so. They wait in line for an hour sometimes. They sit for a half hour or so to give the blood, and wait afterwards to recouperate a bit before they leave.For all of this, they get a sticker that says to the effect, "I helped save a life today." They leave feeling physically weak, but spiritually and emotionally high! They have done something great for their fellow man! It is a gift...offered before asked for. Given willingly and in love for someone they don't know. Don't let anyone tell you that is something to despise! Even the JW's who make use of the option for blood fractions need these selfless individuals who donate! JW's don't donate and yet they will take fractions! Don't let the twisted thinking of the religion bog you down at this time where you need to rest and prepare.

  Take today to calm yourself and go in tomorrow refreshed and ready! Watch some comedy to get you laughing and in a hearty mood! Sing long and loud as you go for a drive today! Get those strong emotions a way to release themselves in a happy way!

  I understand your fear! I cried silent crocodile tears when my doctor told me I had to go in for an operation. It really wasn't as major as some operations are, but it scared the daylights out of me! I went out and took a life insurance policy out to make sure there'd be something for my family if something went wrong. My doctor kept telling me it would be fine and she was right. Listen to the wisdom of your doctor and trust his/her hands.

  Know that we will be thinking about you and sending good thoughts and for those of who pray, prayers your way! Please come back and tell us how you are once you are back on your feet and feeling better. (A post from your laptop while you recouperate and surf the internet would be welcome too! Just make sure you follow doctors orders! Rest well and enjoy the help of your friends and family! Let them pamper you while you recover!)
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  As a jw ,what did you make of non dubs doing christ like things and showing compassion

  by looloo in

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  for example what did you think of bob geldof organising band aid and the hit single "do they know its christmas " and shows like children of courage about kids who may have cancer but still find time to raise funds for ill people , or someone rescues a stranger from a burning building without a thought for themselves , when bob geldof did what he did for the starving in ethiopia did you never wonder why "true christians " did not get involved ?

  and did you ever feel confused that the kid with cancer would be for it come armageddon because his parents were not jws despite being a much nicer kid than you often observed at the kingdum hall ?.

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  It made me think. It stuck in my mind, as a child.

  I didn't pay attention to the news, and the big things going on it the world. I did however pay attention to my grandparents and their friends and neighbors. I saw a lot of selflessness and love. Things I didn't see witnesses doing. My mother was the JW in our house and only did things for the "friends". She did expecting something back. The others that I observed, did things for widows and others who needed help. They didn't expect anything back and didn't really want their deeds acknowledged. They were true Christians.

  I always wondered how God could destroy them. But he reads the heart, so maybe he wouldn't.

  As an adult, on the verge of leaving JW's, I had put the kids in the community theater program. There we sat in a full auditorium with other parents. They were excited. They were holding bouquets of garden flowers. Their grandparents and extended families were there. There was a happy buzz in the auditorium. I looked around and realized there was so much love in that room. It was impossible God would destroy these people because they weren't JW's. At that moment, I just knew that teaching was wrong.

  Were you also noticing these things while in the JW religion, or was it more after you left? If it was while you were in the JW's, did it stir your heart and stick with you as a little point that just couldn't be pushed down?

  To this day, I remember my grandpa mowing the lawns of all the widows in his neighborhood. It was long hot work. He never felt good and sunburned easily. But he did it.

  My widowed grandmother is now supported by her neighbors now that grandpa is gone. They come and shovel her walk early in the morning before work. They plow her driveway. They bring her the mail on days they don't want her to go outside for fear of falling and freezing. Though nearly blind, she bakes for them in appreciation. There is such a spirit of Christian love (they are religious and are Christian in faith) that it can't be overlooked.

  There is a saying, "You may be the only bible a person ever reads.". These people are excellent examples of their bible principles and they witnessed to me even when I was led to believe I knew it all and was educated in the bible more than they ever could be. God has certainly been retraining me!
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  Which Futurama character do you relate to?

  by dissed in

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  2. friends

  warning:be advised this is a fluff piece.

  it is not intended to be taken seriously (leec) if you are offended by fluff and other silly things, please feel free to go on to other, more serious and more intrigueing threads found on jwn, the number one jw discussion forum in the known universe.

  futurama is an awsome show.

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  kitten whiskers

  I'm gonna have to fight Outlaw to be Bender...I love his catch phrase. "Bite my shiny metal a##". Yep. That just sums up so much!
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  Circuit Overseers

  by Eiben Scrood in

  1. jw
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  some circuit overseers leave lasting impressions either for good or bad.

  others i barely remember.

  three that had the most impact on me were rodricks (that's how it's pronounced, not sure of the spelling), casino and shepherd.

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  kitten whiskers

  None of those names ring a bell for me. Isn't it funny how a CO's personality can make things either bearable or unbearable! Some have charisma and charm and some are just evil little men.

  Welcome to the board! Hope you find it educational and entertaining! Have you been out long? It's a long and hard process for many, myself included. It's amazing to be able to make your own decisions though! Nice to meet you!
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  Which book ,studied at the Book Study, you Hated or loved more????

  by deep-blue-sea in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  during my life as jw i have studied many, many books of the wt at the weekly book study.. here you will find some of the books considered during the years with their publishing date:.

  1955 new heavens, new hearth.

  1961 from lost paradise to..... 1962 let your will be done on earth.

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  My favorite was "The Greatest Man who ever Lived", about Jesus.We studied it 10-11 years ago, when our firstborn was a baby.

  I think it was the only time we ever focused on Jesus or love at a bookstudy. It refreshed my soul and I wished all the meetings were about Christ.

  I hated "God's Thousand year Reign" or some such book from when I was about 10 years old. The conductor would call on me when he thought I wasn't pay attention and embarrass me by asking questions from a book clearly not written for a child to comprehend. The conductor's annointed mother would also bring up points and he would "correct" her and tell her what the slaves interpretation or new knowledge was. He was such a jerk.
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  I am a bit dissappointed

  by fleshyheadedmutant in

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  first, let me say that this is not my first post.

  i am actually quandry.

  my avatar was a little monkey with a bottle of wine.

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  kitten whiskers

  I remember you Quandry!

  Glad to hear you are doing well and have come to a good place in life!

  I'll have to re-watch the movie...it's been years and I can't remember anything, yet alone fleshyheadedmutant!
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  My children's grandmother tries to keep them from getting their burned home repaired....

  by HappyGuy in

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  i knew that jehovah's witnesses were callous and cruel but this just takes it to a new level.. my children's house was burned in a fire and their idiot mother (my ex wife) did not have insurance on the house.. home depot is trying to help them and has offered to donate materials to repair the house and has asked habitat for humanity to get involved to supply the labor.. the habitat for humanity district manager came to my children's house and met the home depot district manager and my children.. after they left my children's grandmother (who lives in the house) told them that if habitat for humanity is involved in fixing the house that she will refuse to live there any more because they are involved with christendom.

  so, she is putting pressure on my ex wife to leave the house burned and leave my chlidren (her grandchildren) homeless.. my middle daughter said "well, we will miss you when you leave".

  my youngest daughter said, "well i guess i won't be seeing you any more because i refuse to live in a burned house when people are offering to help fix it but you and my mother are so stupid and retarded that you won't let them help".. please tell me that my ex wife won't be stupid enough to go along with this nonsense.

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  There is always JW reasoning that could be used for grandma.

  I hate trying to think dub thoughts, but here goes:

  1. Jehovah can use any means he wishes to bring about his will.

  2. Many times Jehovah has used something unclean to provide what his people have needed. Ex. according to JW's, the magi were atrologers and followed a star from Satan. In spite of their involvement with Satan, Joseph and Mary (who had God's son and his holy spirit) did not refuse them. They let them see the child and accepted the gifts offered to him. Why? No doubt it was for the journey they would be making to Egypt and they were poor and could use these gifts from God's enemies to support themselves on the journey. Your ex and her mother are no doubt then being blessed by Jehovah with unrighteous riches. Those far from God are being used by him to take care of his servants.

  3. A prostitute was used to hide the Isrealite spies in Jherico. Would we fault God for having them enter a prostitutes home for protection? Surely entering it would be grounds for disfellowshipping, but God used her and saved her for her good work towards his people. She also came to be an ancestor of Christ. (I think I remembered that correctly!)

  I am sorry you are suffering mentally and emotionally as your girls go through this. Thankfully they seem to have wonderful heads on their shoulders and a great work ethic! Keep encouraging them for us!